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Subject: Re: [OT] Why "Computer Science" - was Re: Packed Encoding
From: Charles Yeomans <charles at declareSub dot com>
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 13:58:55 -0500
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On Feb 29, 2008, at 11:56 AM, Theodore H. Smith wrote:

>> Theodore H. Smith wrote:
>>>>>> It also demonstrates that your at least persistent enough to
>>>>>> accomplish and acquire one instead of just waving your hands and
>>>>>> shouting "bullshit" at it.
>>>>> But not smart enough to realise that you can acheive more outside
>>>>> of
>>>>> the academia? Must be a very useful kind of intelligence, smart
>>>>> enough
>>>>> to be persistant at what others tell you is a good thing, but not
>>>>> smart enough to question if it is REALLY a good thing.
>>>> Ah right you have to have NOT had a degree to realize that.
>>>
>>> Nope. Honestly the main thing University seems to teach is  
>>> arrogance.
>>> The belief that you know more than you know, which usually shows up
>>> when you encounter an area new to you. The tendancy to copy other
>>> people's ideas and believe that you are really really clever and
>>> superior, for having copied someone else's ideas, despite that you
>>> can
>>> invent nothing. That sort of thing.
>>
>> Wow.  Thanks for the free psychoanalysis.  Did I do something in
>> particular for you to start insulting everyone you don't even really
>> know?
>>
>> I mean, not having a degree must automatically mean you're on par  
>> with
>> everyone below your own social strata, right?  Just like having a
>> degree
>> means the opposite?
>>
>> Or maybe you're just looking to denigrate people on this list who  
>> have
>> degrees?  Did someone with a degree take a <deleted> in your coffee
>> when
>> you weren't looking so now you're on a mission to insult people?
>>
>> Oddly enough, I have a degree, a minor and a major in two different
>> areas actually, and at the same time I don't really give a damn if  
>> the
>> guy at the next desk has a degree or not as much as I care about
>> whether
>> they have more than the intelligence of a horsefly and I can work  
>> with
>> them to get the job done, much as I don't care if they drive a
>> porche or
>> a ten year old Honda.
>>
>> I've known plenty of people with little or no degree yet much  
>> ambition
>> and drive to get ahead in the world.  I've known people with degrees
>> in
>> CS who couldn't recognize a Bash prompt or know what rooted means,
>> and I
>> know people making twice my salary who panic when their desktop icon
>> layout changed slightly.  I guess it takes all kinds.
>>
>> If you have an issue with someone who happens to have a degree maybe
>> you
>> should consider they're just a jerk, and it doesn't come from  
>> having a
>> degree or their academic experience or lack thereof.
>
>
> I must have touched a nerve.
>
> Anyhow, bringing you back to the facts. Here's the conversation:
>
> Some guy: "perhaps someone with a CS degree can help"
>
> Charles: "yeah I have a CS degree, I can help"
>
> Me: "You don't need no stupid degree to help, in fact here is a better
> neater faster easier to use version that I did despite that I have no
> degree and never felt the need for one".

Charles: "You need to learn to read carefully.  I said that I had  
taken a CS course."





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