> On Feb 29, 2008, at 11:35 AM, Theodore H. Smith wrote:
>
>> Maths is just a... dysfunctional version of logic.
>> It's unwieldy, and... impractical for real life purposes.
>
>
> Math is impractical for real life purposes? Wow. I'll have to remember
> that the next time I get pulled over for speeding.
> "Sorry, officer, but your use of math (my speed > speed limit) proves
> nothing. I'm outta here!"
Thanks for all the general denial and insanity and "it's good to have
the old Theo back" stuff from you guys.
Now anyhow, back to Brad Rhine,
OK. That's just silly. You are deliberately misunderstanding me.
A few thousand years ago, some old Greek proved, using logic, that the
world is round. He did not use maths, he used logic. I think his name
was Aristotle. Some other Greeks proved that the skin has holes in it.
Again, using logic, not maths.
Now, just because it is not expressed in terms of algebra, does not
mean it is not logic.
What they proved was perfectly true. And perfect logic. I'd like to
see you prove that the world is round using maths. It's just awkward.
In facts, maths is just a limited subset of logic. Some guy called
Peano managed to define maths in terms of logic. That is a good start.
This puts logic as the root of all things, not maths.
Now, what you are doing, is saying that just because a subset is
useful in a subset of situations... my idea is nonsense. That is a
nonsense rebuttal. What about the majority of situations where logic
is more appropriate but maths is not?
What you don't realise, is that this ENTIRE message of mine, is logic.
try to express this conversation in maths... you'll fail. What
equation describes what I'm saying?
Most likely instead, you'll ignore what I say, miss the point,
convince yourself that you are right. Despite that I made the point so
clearly and perfectly.
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