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Subject: RE: Help please: Hardware Overview of a PC
From: Sam Rowlands <rowlands@mac.com>
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:41:42 +0800
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okay, I'm glad that MIER might help, but I'll stop you right there and suggest that you seriously consider using a registration service like eSellerate. I know that 10% of each sale can sound daunting (there are ways to get a fixed price), but the eSellerate system also features activation, which is just brilliant. We've sold 1000s of copies of our latest product and only had one customer who had trouble with it, and that was solved when the customer connected his computer to the internet.

Another problem with the Mac address is laptops, when the laptop is no longer connected to the fixed network at the office, but the user is on the train then Mac Address changes. Then the user gets home and hooks up to his own wireless network, thats another change. I had used the Mac address to create a registration system in the past and I encountered this many times and customers are none too pleased.

Windows machines don't have a serial number, there used to be a registry entry for the Windows Serial Number, I don't know if it exists and its not much good as its not unique.

I'll be honest, at the moment I don't have any more ideas. I switched over to using the eSellerate system and haven't looked back.

Mahalo & Aloha,

Sam Rowlands

On Oct 31, 2008, at 1:35 AM, realbasic-nug-request@lists.realsoftware.com wrote:

I am trying to work out a registration system for an app (Win32)and was using the suggestions in: Re: Implementing a registration system into my applicationsThursday, September 8, 2005 9:51 AM

Specifically I am trying to access the MAC address, the serial Number of the machine, the creation date of the Hard Disk, etc.

Yes, I am aware that the MAC address is null unless the Ethernet card is connected, but as the post suggested, about 80% of the variables checked for must be true then the app will proceed, and it is along those lines I am going.

I have also downloaded WFS, (thanks Aaron), and will try that out too.

Any other suggestions.

Thanks.

Lennox.


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Subject: Re: Help please: How to get the serial number of a machine using WFS
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What serial number exactly?

Hello,
How do I get the serial number of a machine using WFS?
Thanks.
Lennox



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Subject: RE: Help please: Hardware Overview of a PC
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Another problem with the Mac address is laptops, when the laptop is no
longer connected to the fixed network at the office, but the user is
on the train then Mac Address changes. Then the user gets home and
hooks up to his own wireless network, thats another change. I had used
the Mac address to create a registration system in the past and I
encountered this many times and customers are none too pleased.


Uhhh... the MAC address shouldn't ever change. It isn't reliant on a
connection at all, it's a unique hardware identifier. A device's MAC only
changes if it's changed by some spoofing software, or in the rare case of
a BIOS configurable onboard. What you all are describing sounds more like
the IP address, which is totally, radically different.

Windows machines don't have a serial number, there used to be a
registry entry for the Windows Serial Number, I don't know if it
exists and its not much good as its not unique.

There's an overall machine SID that's generated, and should be fairly
unique. Every object that can have a security context, in Windows, has a
SID generated and applied. These are generated so as to be pretty reliably
unique, at least at the subnet level.
http://kb.iu.edu/data/aotl.html

To retrieve one you can use the lookupaccountname Win32 function.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa379159(VS.85).aspx
I'm not at my computer currently so I can't check the WFS to see if that's
in there. You could declare into it if you wished. It should also be in
the registry, somewhere around
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SECURITY\SAM\Domains\Account.

Best of luck,
Fargo


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