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Subject: Re: Window from hell
From: RPEHLM <robin@lauryssen-mitchell.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:39:52 +0200
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Yup, saw it, didn't change it due to making an assumption. Lesson learned - again (for about the 500th time)!!!

Robin

Arnaud Nicolet wrote:
Hello Robin,

Le 29 juil. 09 à 22:07, RPEHLM a écrit:

Hi Arnauld,

Almost close: Arnaud ;-)

Thanks for the suggestion - it worked! I just assumed 'MenuBarVisible' referred to the windows own menu bar. Since this particular window does not have a menu bar I thought this value could be left deselected. Guess I'll need to RTFM! :-D

Indeed, there can be some unexpected behaviours (at least for the programmer). Sometimes, some properties, methods or events are named as they are, in RB, because it's their primary function, but the OS does some additional things (the documentation of the OS would tell you these differences, certainly, but one "point" of RB is to keep the user away from having to learn the OS things).

One point is not clear to me: you said you had checked if the properties were the same in all the windows in order to find which one could be different for the "bug" to happen. So I guess you saw that one but you didn't tried to change it, correct? I say that because you may gain some time if you try (you know, you can always go back and nothing should be dangerous, unless FolderItem.Delete ;-) ).

Regards,
Arnaud
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Subject: Re: WYSIWYG editor plug-in.
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Yah, WebKit is available for all 3 platforms.

First off, my customer base is Windows. So thats why I wanted to
"start" with Windows.
However, I'm a Mac person, so I'd really need both platforms.  And
Linux makes sense
as well.  What I really think we need is a plug-in / control that
allows for reliable standards
based viewing of HTML / CSS.  I'd also like to see an "edit" mode so
that people could do
some level of editing in the control. There are dozens of JavaScript /
Ajax editors that
achieve this and its not something thats 'unique', if you're building
some level of content
management, having an HTML editor is becoming "standard".

I'm not familiar with WebKit, is this also something that can run on
Windows?

Gary

On Jul 29, 2009, at 12:48 PM, fargo@rpgportland.com wrote:

I definitely agree that htmlviewer needs to be standardized in some
fashion, but I wanted to mention that there is no specific relation,
per
se, between htmlviewer and a wysiwyg editor. Certainly there _could_
be
one, but really it just boils down to an interface that can take input
that is then processed into proper (x)html/css.

While certainly not the most difficult task in the world, I think
it'd be
a rather extensive project to even half-ass such a thing.

Best,
Fargo

When I bought RB 2005, it was because of HTML viewer, 4 years later
it
still
does not work.  You are right, they should just make their own, and
use
webkit or have Opera or firefox make a plugin.  Just something that
works.

Trausti

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Jann Gobble <janngobble@gmail.com>
wrote:

Nothing should "start" with the windows side.  :)

Just kidding.  That I know of, no such bird exists....what with the
HTMLViewer in RB being 3 different engines across 3 platforms.

Maybe RB should just standardize on WebKit and be done with it!

Jann



On Jul 28, 2009, at 2:11 PM, Gary MacDougall wrote:

Is there a plug-in that allows for HTML editing, preferably a cross
platform plug-in?  But starting with the Windows side?

Thanks,
Gary




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